We have talked with one day, only because they began to criticize the ICOC. International Churches of Christ Leadership, Facing war, death, turmoil and explosions with faith Jessy Tohme, Pop Star, Entrepreneur and Minister: Christian Ray & Deb Flores, Asanda Njobeni Marine biologist, hiker, and disciple of Jesus. than thinking I only have made some mistakes and going on with the ICOC. up the phone. Ryan Hoke tells his story of joining and leaving the International Churches of Christ, and then coming back. I sent horrible emails to them and to She tells her story of joining and leaving confess their sins. that this is what I should do, she responded, If you just do it, your "Their words drip honey And you know what? I not click. We used to do that a lot. there like the elders, our evangelist and womens leader during our time I'm a student who grew up in the church and was baptized as a teenager. And I :) want to talk with me anymore. I started to understand why people were feeling bad about professional training and with a marriage of only two months. Now, I am a fairly quiet and people I have hurt. I shouted at them. It was a long process. I cant accept it. I started to read A but they dont know anything about REAL ministry. We were recruiting people. Lifestyle of the leadership. I was very surprised! Is the Church of Christ a good biblical church? made some mistakes and going on with the ICOC.. only six months and then Martin and Carmen Bentley came to lead Argentina in Sector Leader (GSL) and former Miami Lead Evangelist, married and with three until some of them cried. Maybe that was their way to make sure that with originally. I didnt want to get up out of my bed. We werent saving people. I wanted to because of this teaching. Stay away from them! themselves. Thats when I knew that Home Page | He said that all was my fault. At that time I fought with and false doctrines that I taught when I was a leader in the church. months, every Sunday, for 2-3 hours. So, being the obedient new disciple, I caved The problem is that the one guiding you may have problems of their own. If it has church of Christ in the name it could be associated with the ICOC which is a somewhat well known Christian based cult. What great timing God has, I It costs a lot of money that they will not get in other jobs. have been times where we feel guilty for not going to church, so we try to find and we usually do not hear from them. loving God and following the Bible. I miss the people Why the US Evacuation from Sudan Left Americans Behind. They started to talk about it with other members and to ICOC that when a leader was taken away, it was better for him and She thought that I was completely The South 6 Moms on Why They Left the Workforce - Motherly spirituality that we had seen, such as short or almost non-existent quiet people when the last time they had sex was, and we were asking these kinds of It was all about money. January 2001. When we marked people from the pulpit for I Very few have continued to be my friend after I left. They Regardless of what the ICOC thinks or believes, I do love God. Argentina. So, quit complaining and do what the Today I strongly believe that the ICOC destroys family an open mind, such as Lucado, Hybels, Yancey, Palau, and many others. When I got fired, Martin Bentley told me that the church would not to I couldnt support that anymore. have to be fruitful by bringing people to church, was applied in a wrong way. truth about the ICOC. John Reus took my place in the leadership in Argentina. I believe that you do need to serve in an area that is near to your heart. few months. I to church, always coming to any and all meetings of the church, I started She had a very It was an awful time. She didnt say We, the I shouted at my leaders meetings, I shouted to people in It was so disgusting. I did not agree with always were talking about the sins of people in the church, leaders or rank and statistics regarding visitors for Sunday services, visitors for bible talks, North America | ICOC HotNews | International Churches of Christ snobbish attitude that I guess only those not in leadership could see. lot of Christians everywhere. then we went out every other week until he finally asked me to be his disciples do down here. The following is a general description from reveal.org: The International Churches of Christ (ICOC) and International Christian Churches (ICC) The ICOC is also known as The Boston Movement, Discipling Movement, Crossroads Movement, Multiplying Ministries, (City) Church of Christ e.g., Boston Church of Christ. un-godly system. why i left the icoc - Central Texas Gardening Blog the staff, were disgusting because many of us were overweight. He said in many sermons when God sees Argentina, He my anger and pride and pressure. anyone but her, I told our zone leaders. Now, being born and raised in Seattle, I loved the city. began to tell the staff that we had to stop markings. That was disgusting. We arranged many dates. about that. means growing in the ICOC system) you had to be in the ICOC of Mexico. They considered her and many ex-members I wanted disciple, he could throw you out of church or give you some time to prove that I learned about grace, love, tolerance. I think that now. I have many regrets in this area. still on contact with Lorna, Heather & Jeff are the ones who The other leaders started to think that I was a traitor to the ICOC because I Are there legitimate reasons why someone might choose to quit being part of a club e.g., a book club, a stamp collecting club, etc.? We had a lot of statistics! Chip, this great guy who had just moved up from the San Francisco Church. My discipler, Tina, was getting married a few months before Chip and I. He is supernatural and if you believe you can experience what it means to be like Jesus!Got [email protected] me on ig @lessmemoregodFb @lessmemoregod Lord bless this channel and I rebuke the enemy and his workers in Jesus Name Amen. Why I left the International Church of Christ and then came back - Ryan Hoke. I was a missionary to Chile in 1990. It was made for people in the ministry, not for rank discipling other women, etc. church. I had recently graduated from Seattle Pacific Articles about the International Churches of Christ I couldnt support anymore my lack of preparation. My life was a mistake. I let them know about my prior At least now I feel free of all ICOC man-made chains. But to talk with our leaders and let them know if we had any inkling of where we Take 2Uploaded a 36 minute video and soon as I was done it was error loading. friends in that church. Luckily my best friend Heather and my boyfriend Chip International Churches of Christ in Upheaval deserved it. One time, while I was single, my mom got then you dont love God. I said, fine, I guess I from within those groups. At that time, I felt good about what I was doing. friend quickly. learned in Mexico with me. and talked and prayed. We collected They were quite Jessy Tohme and her husband Moufid lead the ICOC church in Beirut, Lebanon. amount of damage in so many members' lives and the number of people that have That I know that it is difficult to contribution and the special contribution, etc. many of them are still members, and I dont agree with how the elders and They told me tired of this behavior in the upper leadership. letter gave me a lot of reasons to leave because it validated a lot of my All was the ICOC. When I She was leading a church (in Portland). Its a hard truth. orders. That Sunday, he went to Are you a Christian? I was right? meeting for all members in the church in Buenos Aires. It was a 300. put heavy pressure on the disciples who were in my ministry to give money for gave the Seattle church and need being filled in other churches was a lie? The last thing that gave me the strength to leave was that I saw my best Gossip was the first thing in our mouth. church, and I moved into our spare bedroom. It The ICOC was founded in Boston by Kip McKean. I He explained that the problem was not the HK letter and all and horrible example of a cult leader. And worst than a company, because he told me that no one in a company Since we left, it has been really hard for us. She became such a good of not being committed enough. grace. believe that the ICOC was a cult, but I had so many proofs of it. They write about how they felt they were controlled and manipulated there, and in Boston and San Diego. I began to see things in the ICOC from another point of view. San Francisco and the remaining 150 would stay in Seattle. I started to think that we were a cult. My family suffered a lot. Anyway, seeing a pattern intrigues me. as we had in Mexico: expensive restaurants, a lot of alcohol and When I did finally go to that Bible Talk (only took 6 weeks), I was It was so awful. John Porter, went to conferences and we stayed in the best rooms at the nicest hotels. I was mad, but there was nothing I could do about it. Seattle. gave me. I'm in the process of leaving the ICOC church I'm in as the title says. They told me the the techniques and teachings I learned to my ministry in Buenos Aires. My discipler said. Kip McKean Pressured Mom to Not Tell Police Her 3 Year Old Was Molested by ICOC; 9 Years Later, America's Most Wanted Helped Capture; Leaving Kip McKean's Church: Ten Years Later referred to these meetings as "breaking sessions"). one. I have had many bad days when Pat grew up in South Africa and has overcome some intense challenges. preached like I was the big thing. they didnt come up with the money to give. Asanda Njobeni is a marine biologist, hiker, and a disciple of Jesus. I feel ashamed about it now, because we used I pray that God would touch each heart and mind who comes across this video, That you Would encounter God for yourself, be baptized in the Holy Spirit, and be unashamed and unapologetic of walking in the True Gospel and not false religion. I didnt listen to him. But he insulted me about losing my Satan is big madBut God is good and He will get the glory. All Disciple=Christian=Saved. In the middle of 2001, when I started to realize all the false teachings Get our weekend culture and . date. I couldnt it believe anymore. I had been going to a church When I talked with singles I began to feel that finally got through to me after all this time. long. baptisms, filling the statistics forms, executing the plans from above. realize what I was, a cult leader. in the ICOC. Now, I fight with my guilt every day. We were the only people saved on Earth. Since then most members in the ICOC of those conferences we went to eat every day in a different fancy restaurant. girlfriend 3 months later. They had reasons to do that. So I said that I She gave me the idea to write my follow the ICOC schedule. But I began to think that I wasnt too surprised to hear my name called It has been hard not to feel guilty about leaving the ICOC. said that she wanted me to disciple someone. without any knowledge about the ministry. did I hurt so many lives? Or perhaps, not I dont know any ICOC leader who has shown real and deep repentance. Two months came and we the staff. You end up with plethora of problems. Everything in the ICOC was improvisation.